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Started by veritas et fortitudo at 11-13-2008 4:35 PM. Topic has 16 replies.
  
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 11-13-2008, 4:35 PM
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veritas et fortitudo
Joined on 11-14-2008
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Re: Can a Ayn Randian Government truly work ?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"> <strong>R_Crusoe wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">This answers my question about how to pay for the army; but how does one in the army live according to rational egoism? How does one mix military hierarchy and dogma with objectivism?
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Military service is/would be voluntary in an objectivist society - like it is in the United States. It is a job not unlike being a waiter, a cashier, or a mechanic. You are aware of the risks and requirements of the job as well as the compensation for your efforts before you sign on for the job. If one does not like the idea of working with weapons, missile systems, armored vehicles, and angry drill sergeants then they should do something else. Personally, I like retail security :) The point is it is a VOLUNTARY military that an objectivist society would have.
Hierarchy is a part of every business. If you don't like the structure, hierarchy, or culture of the particular business you are in, then quit and find a new business to work for or become an entrepreneur. Everyone is free to make their own choices.
Also, for most, military duty/service is not a job they have for the rest of their life. Most join a particular branch of the military, serve for a few years, and then leave to pursue other ventures. You join the military for the experience, to learn new skills, and to make some money. Wars are/would be fought only with those countries who have deliberately attacked our country. There is no other justification for war.
Please, don't make it sound as though people would be forced to work for the government (either as a civil servant, in law enforcement, or in the military). In an objectivist society everyone is free to make their own decisions and working for the government is no different. If someone does decide to work for the government it would be after considering the requirements of the job, pros and cons of the job, and the compensation of the job or career path. A person would make that decision voluntarily and of their own FREE WILL.
It is up to the government and each individual to decide how much they will be compensated for their service. If a particular branch of the military is finding it difficult to attract new recruits then that branch may offer additional incentives or higher pay. If the idea of possibly losing your life in the line of duty seems unbearable to you then you shouldn't be in the military or law enforcement - but that idea might not be such a burden to others.
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12-22-2008, 5:18 PM
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JRBogie
Joined on 12-23-2008
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Re: Can a Ayn Randian Government truly work ?
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I am new here and I am actually new to "objectivism", although most of the ideas I have had without a name for most of my life.
that said, I am a military member. I may be wrong but I view of objectivism is not that every man is a general. every man may have potential, but they cant all start there. I am not a slave. I signed a contract with full knowledge that I may have to lay down my life to protect the few freedoms that I still hold dear. People like me I believe would be easier to find if they had the freedoms that an AR country would provide. That is my view on military, I think that police and judges would work the same way.
Now that said, I do believe in a flat fair tax. I suppose that puts me in the minority here, but If you only had to pay for military and police forces, then the tax would be so low that it would go almost un-noticed.
my two sense on military, I have views on the rest, but I have taken up alot of space already
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